Jessi Draper is done holding back.

The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives star sat down with podcast host Alex Cooper for an intimate conversation on Call Her Daddy, where they candidly spoke about her costar Taylor Frankie Paul’s domestic violence investigation and Draper’s ongoing divorce with her estranged husband, Jordan Ngatikaura.

The episode was filmed on March 20, one day after news broke that Ngatikaura had filed for divorce from Draper, whom he wed in 2020 and welcomed two children with. In the nearly hour and a half-long episode, Draper made several shocking claims about her relationship and split from Ngatikaura, from calling him out for allegedly using an “escort service” to accusing him of being “emotionally abusive.”

Ngatikaura has not yet publicly responded to Draper’s claims. PEOPLE has reached out to Ngatikaura for comment but has not heard back.

Below, here are six bombshells from Jessi Draper’s Call Her Daddy interview.

Draper says she found out through TMZ that Ngatikaura filed for divorce

Early in the conversation with Cooper, Draper revealed that she found out about Ngatikaura’s divorce filing through TMZ, who broke the news alongside a statement from her ex on March 20.

“[TMZ] texted me and I was here in L.A. and I get a text, ‘Hey just saw Jordan filed for divorce. How are you doing?’ ” she said. “I did end it with him, so I knew it was coming, but we had made an agreement to do it together and he blindsided me and filed because he wanted the headline first.”

Draper said her “heart sunk” because they hadn’t told their children yet, including Ngatikaura’s 13-year-old daughter, Peyton, whom Draper helped raise.

“I had this huge packet of paperwork to fill out on like how to divide assets and furniture and cars and houses and we had to fill it out to file,” she continued. “So he went ahead and just did all of that without me. So I have no idea what he put in there.”

Draper claimed she has “proof” Ngatikaura used an escort service

After Cooper brought up the reports of Ngatikaura’s alleged “shady behavior for years,” Draper claimed that she has “proof and screenshots” that her ex had used an escort service around the time of season 1.

“I had an escort service reach out to me and they sent me screenshots of his phone number and messages, and he was trying to meet up with them,” she alleged. “He got a hotel room and I have all of that.”

She said it happened two weeks before she kissed Marciano Brunette, which was heavily documented throughout seasons 2 and 3 of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.

“I protected him through all the Marciano stuff and he denied it to me when I brought it to him,” she said. “And he said, ‘We’re in Hollywood now. People are going to try to do this to tear us apart. It’s probably AI.’ But it wasn’t.”

Further, Draper claimed she heard Ngatikaura allegedly attended “orgies” or “sex parties,” though she admitted she doesn’t have “proof of those.”

Draper claimed in the interview that Ngatikaura “hacked” her Instagram and would spy on her

Draper told Cooper that she has gotten a new phone number since her split from Ngatikaura, which she felt was necessary because she claimed he “spied” on her in the past. She then went into detail on a situation involving reality star Harry Jowsey, where Ngatikaura allegedly hacked her Instagram and later accused her of cheating on him.

The mother of two said that she and Jowsey exchanged a few “innocent” audio messages wishing each other well on their shared birthdays, though the Perfect Match alum used joking language such as “naughty kitten.”

Draper claimed in the interview that Ngatikaura later “hacked” her Instagram when they were separated, created a fake phone number and sent himself the audio messages with Jowsey. She said that he then allegedly had the fake number text him to say, ‘Dude, I think you should know about this. Your wife’s cheating on you.’ “

“So he accused me of cheating on him with Harry Jowsey, said it was someone else and then I found out it was him,” she continued. “And that’s all it was. The audios are so innocent. Like it was just like, ‘Hey, how are you?’ “

She also alleged that he has “tracked” her and “listened in on my cameras in my house.”

Draper did not provide evidence for these claims.

Draper claimed Ngatikaura was “emotionally abusive” throughout their relationship

Draper accused Ngatikaura of verbally criticizing her on “everything” and being “emotionally abusive” at times.

“It’s like 90% criticism and 10% compliments,” she said. “Anything I did, like how I ran my business, how I parented, my time management, how I cleaned the house, like every little thing, even like how I would like dress and like, you know, things like that.”

She claimed he wanted to be more “masculine,” and for her to be more “feminine,” as he wanted to embrace more “traditional gender roles.”

Draper further claimed that Ngatikaura told her he wanted her to “start doing Pilates every single day.”

In a November 2025 conversation with PEOPLE, Draper claimed that she experienced “emotional abuse” from her husband and that the pair agreed to a 90-day separation, working on their relationship in therapy.

At the time, Ngatikaura issued a statement to PEOPLE in response, saying, “I take full accountability for the pain I caused Jessi during our marriage.”

Draper alleged in the interview that Ngatikaura “blackmailed” her, filmed her and compared her to Paul

When discussing some of their conflicts, Draper claimed that Ngatikaura would “blackmail” her with the “Marciano texts.” She said that before the news of her kiss with Brunette had been public, Ngatikaura had a draft on his phone on TikTok of their texts.

“Anytime he was mad at me, he’s like, ‘I’m going to post them, I’m going to ruin your life,’ ” she claimed.

Draper recalled fearing that he would release the texts, which nobody had known about at the time, and admitted to “chasing him trying to get it” when he allegedly threatened to post it amid one of their arguments.

“He pulls out his phone, starts recording me. And he’s like, ‘What are you gonna do? What are you gonna do? Are you gonna be like, Taylor, should I call the cops?’ ” Draper claimed in the interview. “And I was like, ‘Woah.’ “

She added, “That was the moment where for me I was like, ‘What am I doing? I am chasing around my husband trying to get his phone so he doesn’t blackmail me. This is not healthy,’ and I literally left him the next day. I was like, this can’t happen anymore.”

Draper confirmed their prenuptial agreement is valid

Season 4 of The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives saw Draper learn that her prenuptial agreement with Ngatikaura was not signed by a witness, therefore putting its validity into question.

At one point, she tearfully told her costars that she could lose “millions” if she decided to get a divorce. However, Draper confirmed on Call Her Daddy that her lawyers told her the prenup is “actually valid.”

“You don’t need a witness signature as long as both of you have signed it, which we have. So thank God,” she said. “I don’t have to give him anything for my businesses, but I will have to pay alimony and child support most likely.”

She went on to say that she “might have to do some sort of payout,” but those details have yet to be worked out.

“I do know like he can’t take my business or, you know, anything like that. So I’m happy about that,” Draper added.